Seder Olam Missing Years: Bible Dates: Dates of Creation: Bible CalendarsThe Seder Rabbah Olam is Jewish literature of second century A.D. - a midrashic chronological work, generally regarded as a work of the tanna Jose b. Halafta. The data provided was 154 years excessive. According to this book, there were 3828 years from Creation to the 70AD destruction of the temple, and 1656 years from Creation to the flood. Therefore, from the Flood to 70AD there are 2172 years.
What is the Seder Olam Rabbah and its Missing Years?
The Seder Rabbah Olam is Jewish literature of second century A.D. - a midrashic chronological work, generally regarded as a work of the tanna Jose b. Halafta. [The "tannaim" were the masters of the "oral law," i.e. the men who wrote the Talmud.]
It is a chronological record extending from Adam to the revolt of Bar Kokba in the reign of emperor Hadrian in the 130's A.D.. It is terribly flawed in the chronology it presents--thus the claim that Adam was only created in 3760 B.C..
Refer to: (...israelofgod.org/dealing.htm) Frank W. Nelte (no longer current) January 1999.
I recently came across an article discussing chronological problems in relation to the Seder Olam Rabbah, specifically that it reduces the Persian Period of history from it's 200+ years to just a few decades. Conventional chronology states that the Persians ruled Israel from 539 BC to 332 BC (207 years). Rabbinic chronology says the Persians ruled for 52 years. Jon Klein. Biblical Prophecy and Y2K)
As the Author of 'The King's Calendar: The Secret of Qumran, which is a chronological study of the books of the Bible, and of Josephus and of the Damascus Document of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and understanding that the ancients, principally between the 5th and 3rd centuries BCE (but continuing down to at least 104 BCE), transcribed the legitimate chronological records of Israel into an artificial form consisting of 12 monhts of 4 weeks of 7 days, or 336 day years, (thereby extending the true history of Israel), I realised that the King's Calendar might be able to provide some clue to understanding the discrepancies in the Seder Olam Rabbah.
At the time I first wrote this article I knew little of the work, nor of the arguments surrounding it but from what chronological details I researched I did discover something interesting.
According to this book, there were 3828 years from Creation to the 70AD destruction of the temple, and 1656 years from Creation to the flood. Therefore, from the Flood to 70AD there are 2172 years.
From within the King's Calendar research, it can be seen that there exists evidence that the artificial calendar was used until at least 104 BCE. It can therefore be summised that from the period 104 BCE to 70 AD, chronological records were provided in true solar years, of which there were 173.
To subtract these 173 years from the period "The Flood to 70 AD", results in a figure of 1999 years. If these years be artificial which they most certainly are, those years convert into 1845 true solar years, a discrepancy of 154 years.
What is the significance of these years?
If the Seder Olam Rabbah was a serious attempt to chronologise the history of Israel, synchronising it with known historical events, then the data used during this period, was 154 years excessive.
In that article, there was a variance with Ussher's date for Creation of 152 years
Finding the calculations excessive would have been unacceptable in light of the reverence with which the Biblical records were held. It would have been necessary for the author/s of the Seder Olam Rabbah, to compress history. This is not a fanciful suggestion, for you can find example after example of this in any history book that deals with the Biblical Data. If the Biblical data is excessive of history, then it must be compressed to fit.
That at some point, true history was compressed, is not at all surprising. Believing that the records were utterly true and correct, there may have been no recourse but to adjust history (The converse of which takes place today). The only true flaw in the chronology, is that it's artificial nature was unrecognised. (We find the same in Josephus).
Alternatively as is suggested at Divrei Beit Hillel: (link no longer current)
"Rabbi Leibtag of Yeshivat Har Etzion .... claimed that Seder Olam's purpose was deeper than merely trying to record the facts of history.
In his "Midrashic" chronology, he was attempting to center historical events around important theological ones."
[Insights into the weekly Torah portion from students at Penn : Parshat Lech L'cha:13 Cheshvan 5761 Nov 10-11, 2000]
Mao Wenwen reminded me that when she was my student I would often refer to her as Mao Zedong. I do that sometimes – calling students by the names of famous or infamous people. Paying honor to me as her English teacher Mao Wenwen provided me the coffee free of charge (courtesy of the management). She also invited Johnny and me to come inside and take a look around, and once I did, I decided that I wanted to come back to take photos. Receiving permission from the owner, all I needed was the chance to get back.
I’m sure if you understand what Sociology is that you would find my statement rather strange for it leads to the question of what impact the King’s Calendar Research Result has on society and societal problems. But before we go look at that aspect, I want to talk about the personal aspect – MY aspect.
The demolition came as row between the church and government escalated over allegations the church refused to pay a £450 arbitrary road usage fee. Pastor Zhang Di was summoned for questioning last month and accused of assaulting police officers and attacking a village official. So when I read reports as in the link you sent and see the ACTUAL TRUTH in the middle of the article, I know that there is a lot more going on than is being reported.
Well obviously I am misrepresenting the meaning of the protester here. What they mean is that they support the right of one section of society to have and to hold their own culture and beliefs and they do this by protesting against another section of society’s right to have and to hold their own culture and beliefs.
As for a non-Muslim who posits that Islamic Terrorists do not truly practice Islam or truly believe in Allah, they are speaking either from complete ignorance, or subjective rationale relative to whatever it is that they have been told, or heard, or read. The word subjective relates a personal position relative to a particular situation. That does not of course mean that the subjective perception is ABSOLUTELY / ULTIMATELY incorrect. It may well be correct – the ultimately provable fact of the matter.
And so I began using the LIKE button. Ah such freedom! New sunrise photo – LIKE! Second day of school award for my granddaughter – LIKE! My 98 year old grandmother passed away yesterday – LIKE! But then the weirdest thing happened. Someone posted an article about two homosexuals who were given a public flogging in Indonesia. So I hit LIKE! Bloody hell! 23 threats of physical violence upon my person, and 17 announcements that I was about to be defriended. WTF?
So there you have it. The Patriarch Joseph was born in 1683BC. He was set over the Kingdom of Egypt in 1656BC. The Israelite Sojourn in Egypt commenced in 1648BC. Joseph died in 1582BC. The Hyksos were expelled in 1554BC. Moses was born in 1523BC.The Exodus commenced in 1449BC. The Israelites entered Caanan in 1412BC and 480 years later in the 4th year of Solomon the first temple commenced construction in 970 BC.
Since 2004 he has been writing academic articles, social commentaries and photographic 'Stories from China' both here at KingsCalendar, and formerly as a contributing columnist at Magic City Morning Star News (Maine USA) where from 2009 to 2015 he was Stand-in Editor. He currently has a column at iPatriot.com and teaches English to Business English and Flight Attendant College Students in Suzhou City Jiangsu Province People's Republic of China.)
BenDedek originally created the site to publicize his research results into the Chronology of Ancient Israel. Those results were published under the title: 'The King's Calendar: The Secret of Qumran.' Whilst there have been many attempts to solve the chronological riddle of the Bible's synchronisms of reigns of the kings of Israel and Judah and their synchronism with other Ancient Near Eastern Nations, no other research is based on a simple mathematical formula which could, if it is incorrect, be disproved easily. To date, no one has been able to dismiss the mathematical results of this research.
Free to air Academic articles set forth Apologetics for and results of his discovery of an "artificial chronological scheme" running through the Bible, Josephus, the Damascus Documents of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and Seder Olam Rabbah. Check the Chapter Precis Page to see details of each chapter and to gain access to the Four Free to Air Chapters
(The Download book does not contain a section on Seder Olam)
Definition: King's Calendar Chronological Research
The Premise: Between the 5th and 3rd centuries BCE (but continuing down to at least 104 BCE), Sectarian redactors transcribed the legitimate 'solar year' chronological records of Israel and Judah, into an artificial form, with listed years as each comprised of 12 months of 4 weeks of 7 days, or 336 days per year, thus creating a 13th artificial year where 12 solar years existed.
When the Synchronous Chronological Data provided in the Books of Kings and Chronicles for the Divided Kingdom Period are measured in years of 336 days, the synchronisms actually align. [Refer to Appendix 5. to see how it synchronises the Divided Kingdom Period]